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Samsung NX 11 18-55 ifn objective.
Today i went out and bought a CSC (Compact systemcamera) from Samsung, the NX 11 model together with kit 18-55mm objective. Will order the 50-200mm when my wallet stops screaming (3 cameras in 4 months).
Anyone experienced with this Camera? I read alot of reviews, tried it at a store and i got pleasantly suprised, smaller than a regular DSLR body but with the same features and specs as nikon/canon. The sensor is the same as in Canon 7D.
Reviews arent all that mixed.. most of reviewers give the camera 8 out of 10. Photograhyblogg, ephotozine and so on.
The thing that caught me the most is the i fn button and it's features, you press the button on the objective and can manually change everything from ISO, WB, Aperture etc with the zoomring.
The main reason i bought it was because i needed a smaller camera but with changeable objectives. And ofcourse i know the manager so he knocked of $100 from the price aswell.
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I read a little about this camera but didn't go into it too much. The benefits of the larger sensor should be evident. It should be able to handle low light high ISO shooting well. I am curious how fast the lenses are and what is the max shutter speed?
I like to use narrow DOF for a lot of images and a fast lens and fast shutter speed are useful for that in daylight shooting. I also look for low light capabilities in a camera and fast lenses and high quality images at high ISO right out of the camera are a huge benefit to me.
I probably won't be in the market for mirror-less system unless it is compatible with lenses I already have but I am always curious to see what new camera technologies can do. Who knows maybe I will win the lottery and can just buy whatever I want...lol.
Post up some images when you can. I would love to see some real world examples of what this camera can do.
Laurie
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I will post some images asap. Played around with the camera yesterday and the DOF is awsome, it even have a dedicated DOF button on the front below the objective where you can press and hold it and it shows how the image will turn out in a DOF perspective before you take it. Shutterspeed is max 30sec but it has a bulbmode aswell.
I usally never shoot images above iso 400 but i tried indoor in low light with higher ISO and too me (novice) it looked very well.
Shutterspeed lag is around 0.2, AF in low light can struggle sometimes but with either MF or AEF locked it's no problem, in broad daylight Auto focus is fast as hell.. equal to any of th emidrange cameras like Nikon/Canon 600D/5100D and there around.
Samsung NX 11 test from Ephotozine
Shutter Response* 0.1
Wide - Focus / Shutter Response 0.3
Full zoom - Focus / Shutter Response 0.3
Switch on Time to Taking a Photo 1.3
Shot to Shot (without flash) 1.0
Shot to Shot with Flash 1.1
Continuous Shooting (full resolution, shots) 3fps (15 shots before slow down)
Continuous Shooting (with flash) 2fps (infinite shots)
Continuous Shooting (RAW) 3fps (5 shots before slow down)
Samsung have around 7 lenses available ranging from panncake 20mm, macro to tele 18/55-200mm but they seem expensive.
I read somewhere that pentax K-r lenses will work together with an adapter.. and i think someone said something about Tamron aswell.
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I recently bought the NX10 off ebay with 18-55mm and 30mm f2 lens. I'm waiting for adaptor to come from china to also utilise an old Pentax 50mm f1.4 lens. Havent had the time to experiment with it much yet though.
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I think you will find the artistic flexibility you get with the larger sensor over that of the HS20 to be pretty amazing as you said the DOF is awesome which is a huge advantage the larger sensors have over the bridge camera sensors. The DOF preview button is pretty standard on SLRs and DSLRs. I think all of my SLRs have had the DOF preview. My 1981 Minolta SLR has it as do the 3 Digital SLR bodies that I have. I think it probably functions a bit differently on the mirror-less system but I am not sure. I will leave that for the more technically savvy people here to answer.
Either way congrats on moving into the interchangeable lens, larger sensor class camera. This class of camera should be a true competitor to the DSLR class of cameras, more so than the bridge camera class is, but it will be larger and a bit heavier than the bridge class due to the size of the sensor and the size of the lenses as a result. It will also require a bit more of an investment in lenses than the bridge camera. But the artistic flexibility will probably blow you away
You should be able to get DOF like these with the right lenses:
50mm f/1.4 @ f/1.4:
60mm f/2.8 micro macro @ f/4.5 (razor thin at almost any setting see next image)
60mm f/2.8 micro macro @ f/14 (razor thin at almost any setting)
Laurie
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No, it's not heavier or larger than the HS20.. the opposite, its thinner and weights less.
Anyway.. with no special set up or light sources etc, just M and change of aperture/shutter, here are a few test pics in different conditions.
http://bentphotos.wordpress.com/
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If you get larger lenses it will be heavier. It has to be as a result of the larger size of the sensor. The reason bridge cameras have such long range lenses is due to the small sensor size. The speed of the lens will also affect the size of the lens. A lens with an f stop of 2.8 will be larger and heavier than that of a lens that starts at f/4.5. DX lenses are smaller than FX lenses but the sensor size in this camera as I understand it is the size of most DX sensors like my D200, unless I am thinking of a different camera. When I have my 70-200mm f/2.8 lens on my D200 with the smaller sensor it is the equivalent of 105mm-300mm when on my D700 it is 70-200mm, but the lens is big and heavy on on either. I don't know the range of dedicated lenses for this camera but if the sensor is larger than the lenses will have to be larger and heavier that the equivalent on a bridge camera just to cover the larger area on the sensor. The quality of the glass and speed of the lens will also affect the weight. I hope that makes sense.
EDIT...I also have a 4/3's Olympus DSLR with a smaller sensor than the DX size and with slower lenses. It is much smaller and lighter than either of my DSLR's but it is still heavier than my HS10, and the lenses are "kit" so they are low end.
Laurie
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Just to illustrate what I mean look at these in comparison to each other. From left to right:
HS10 24-720mm f2.8-5.6 lightweight bridge camera
Minolta XD5 35mm Film SLR (heavy metal body) with 80-200mm f/4.5-5.6 (slow cheap lens)
Olympus E300 4/3's sensor DSLR (lightweight body) with 40-150mm f/3.5-4.5 (slow cheap kit lens)
D200 DX sensor DSLR (heavy metal body with vertical grip attached) with 80-200mm f/2.8 (good fast lens) equivalent to 120-300mm on DX body
D700 FX (full frame) sensor (heavy metal body with vertical grip attached) with 70-200mm f/2.8 VR (high quality fast lens)
Also look at these two lenses . They are similar focal length zooms with the smaller cheap one actually having a broader zoom range than the larger one. The smaller one is a cheap slow kit lens and the larger one is a high quality fast lens:
The one on the left is a cheap 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5 kit lens and the one on the right is a high end 28-70mm f/2.8. There is a big size and weight difference between the two lenses.
Yes being mirror-less will make the body smaller and lighter but the longer focal length faster lenses will make the kit heavier than the bridge camera.
Sorry for the quality of the picture but my good cameras are all on the table and I just took a quick snap...lol
EDIT: I have to add that dedicated DX lenses are a little lighter and smaller but if they are high quality and fast they will still be larger and heavier. I have 2 DX lenses but I didn't dig them out. I use FX lenses on my DX body.
Laurie
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http://adventureswitharty.blogspot.com/
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Guess the 50-200mm will be heavier.
Anyway.. there are some pic's with no editing at all.
http://bentphotos.wordpress.com/
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If it is any consolation that lens will likely be in the weight range somewhere between my Minolta's 80-200mm and my Olympus 40-150mm...perhaps. It will also depend on the speed of the lens. Do you know what the aperture range is on the lenses? That will determine the speed and the size of the lens front element and physical length too.
EDIT: The weight will also depend on whether the lens has metal or plastic construction. My Olympus and the cheap Nikon kit lenses have a lot of plastic but the Minolta and my high end Nikon lenses are all metal making them much heavier.
Judging from the images you posted you will have a lot of artistic flexibility with the new camera and I am sure it will bring you a great deal of satisfaction.
By the way I posted a silly little blog here at MyFinePix...just some lighthearted fun. It is nothing fancy in terms of photographic quality it is just something purely for amusement, mostly my own I think. You can have a look here if you want: http://cn.myfinepix.com/blog/259473/418214
EDIT: The images I posted in this thread (flute, books, tape measure) are also unedited beyond what was done inside the camera at the time of the shots.
Laurie
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http://cn.myfinepix.com/user/capture-photography
http://adventureswitharty.blogspot.com/
"Holding a grudge is like drinking poison hoping the other person will die." Unknown
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Some reviews on the Samsung objectives.. not included is the 18-200 nor the 50-200.
http://www.photozone.de/samsungnx
http://bentphotos.wordpress.com/
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Almost two weeks in and around thousand pictures taken with the NX11, i love it. This is a serious competitor to D3100 and 1100D. Samsung just announced more lenses for the NX series and by the end of 2012 we will have around 15 lenses available (now it's around 10). covering all aspects. The features, editing, ISO, feel, lenses, buttonlayout and so on.. it's all a joy. The price is pretty **** awesome aswell.
Here are a few pics taken with the camera.
http://bentphotos.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sam_78731.jpg
http://bentphotos.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sam_7963.jpg
http://bentphotos.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sam_79201.jpg
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It's a decent wee camera but not a competitor with the Nikon or the Canon.They beat it in the important categories. If ah was after a mirrorless type camera, ah'd go for something like an NEX-5.
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The Canon 7D or the Nikon D800... no.. but the D3100 and 1100D.. yes.
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The 3100...
The 1100D
The NEX-5 ? Smaller, lighter, better all round.
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An optical viewfinder is a must for me for action shots, especially birds in flight. Lag on an EVF is a big no-no.
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